[BYLAW REVISION] [OBJECTION] Correcting Runewise Error

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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision

Opened: 22-Jun-2024 12:00AM EDT

Closing: 29-Jun-2024 12:00AM EDT

Pursuant to bylaw C. iii. Genre Coordinators must pass before Council any plot, R&U bylaw revision, R&U named characters, Coordinator-NPC Character Resurrections, territory requests, in character enforced policy, or in character binding edict they wish to use which they can reasonably expect to affect multiple chronicles and these proposals need not be seconded, but go immediately into discussion.

I, Virginia Grams, as Gangrel Coordinator, propose the following character by-law revision. This has the potential to autopass.

Item 1

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10. Controlled Items

m. VAMPIRE CONTROLLED ITEMS

vii. Powers

12. Rune Wise - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Gangrel

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10. Controlled Items

m. VAMPIRE CONTROLLED ITEMS

vii. Powers

12. Rune Wise - PC: ⅔ Majority - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Gangrel

Reasoning: This brings the two PCs currently into compliance as well as set up if people want to attempt for it at such a high level approval.

We are still working on a functioning non Hedgemagic varient of Runewise, but this change should be made to help our players who need to be in compliance.

Virginia

Gangrel Coordinator

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40 out of 160 eligible voters cast their ballot

For

63% (25 votes)

Against

30% (12 votes)

Abstain

8% (3 votes)

Chronicle/Position	Voted for	Comment
Chicago, IL - USA, Prey to Predator	For
Twin Cities, MN, - USA, The Last Stand	Abstain	Changing breed, no horse in the race
Dubuque, IA - USA, Kingdom of Ashes	For	So I watched the Presidential debate last night. It was an interesting exercise in disappointment. I kept finding myself wishing I had watched literally anything else, but managed to resist the overwhelming temptation to just put Brooklyn Nine-Nine on instead. I can't say that I think I lost brain cells, or that I was swayed in any way from whom I (like the rest of the country) have already decided to vote for before last night, but I can say that I distinctly feel that I pissed away an hour and a half of my life that cannot be regained. Anyway, since taking hedge magic away from two PCs is apparently hard, I guess I'm in favor of this.
New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York	For
Rockland, NY - USA, Under The Rock	For	This is to help bring players into compliance and keep people having fun.
Mossoro, RN - Brazil, Mossoro by Night	For
La Crosse, WI - USA, The Rivers Edge	For
Berkeley, CA - USA, Wasting the Dawn	For
Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night	Against
Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture	For
Peoria, IL - USA, The Shattered Mirror	For
Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within	Against	We do not believe vampires should have Hedge Magic or benefit from such. If a proper packet for Runewise is propped we would be willing to reconsider.
Bartow, FL - USA, Polk County Prophecies	For
Sacramento, CA - USA, Sacramento By Night	Against
Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem	For
Winona, MN - USA, Winona Dark Haven	For
Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution	Against
Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater	For
Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum	Against
Dayton, OH - USA, Dying Embers	For
Orland Park, IL - USA, Enigmas of Rage	Abstain	As a changing breeds game we will be abstaining, I on a personal level hope this passes, as Council passed voted to allow these two pc's to have Runewise and only a change to our definitions took it from them. Also, I second what Kingdom of Ashes said This comment has been revised 1 time. *Click here to see revision history* Version 1 dated: Jun 28 2024, 2:51pm EDT As a changing breeds game we will be abstaining, I on a personal level hope this passes, as Council passed voted to allow these two pc's to have Runewise and only a change to our definitions took it from them. Version 2 dated: Jun 28 2024, 2:51pm EDT As a changing breeds game we will be abstaining, I on a personal level hope this passes, as Council passed voted to allow these two pc's to have Runewise and only a change to our definitions took it from them. Also, I second what Kingdom of Ashes said
Brasília, DF - Brazil, Pacis Aeternae	For
Allentown, PA - USA, Steel Valley by Night	Against	We should find a way to address this without even remotely opening the door for Vampires having the ability to buy Hedge Magic. Again, we’d prefer that if anything is done Runewise should be a blood magic for Vampires with standard thaumaturgy paths from the books.
Macon, GA - USA, Stolen Hours	For
Madison, Wi - USA, Black Crusade	For
Lancaster, OH - USA, Never Ending Nights	Against	We do not feel that the Bylaw, as it stands, is an "Error." The Organization previously was of the opinion that Vampire PCs should not have direct access to Hedge Magic and that is why this regulation exists. At this time, our stance on Vampires & Hedge Magic has not changed. As per AHC response, the 2 PCs that have Runewise have it through an exception that existed at that time. As is the case, there is nothing to bring into compliance.
Gary, IN - USA, Shattered Souls	For
Kenosha, WI - USA, Memento Mori	For
Boston, MA - USA, Reclaimed	For
Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique	Against
Ann Arbor, MI - USA, Tower of Broken Glass	For
Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus	Abstain
Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy	Against
Springfield, OH - USA, Ohio Knights Sabbat	For
Edwardsville, IL - USA, Caught in Eternal Twilight	Against	We do not feel that the Bylaw, as it stands, is an "Error." The Organization previously was of the opinion that Vampire PCs should not have direct access to Hedge Magic and that is why this regulation exists. At this time, our stance on Vampires & Hedge Magic has not changed. As per AHC response, the 2 PCs that have Runewise have it through an exception that existed at that time. As is the case, there is nothing to bring into compliance. This comment has been revised 1 time. *Click here to see revision history* Version 1 dated: Jun 23 2024, 2:14am EDT We do not feel that the Bylaw, as it stands, is an "Error." The Organization previously was of the opinion that Vampire PCs should not have direct access to Hedge Magic and that is why this regulation exists. At this time, our stance on Vampires & Hedge Magic has not changed. Version 2 dated: Jun 23 2024, 2:16am EDT We do not feel that the Bylaw, as it stands, is an "Error." The Organization previously was of the opinion that Vampire PCs should not have direct access to Hedge Magic and that is why this regulation exists. At this time, our stance on Vampires & Hedge Magic has not changed. As per AHC response, the 2 PCs that have Runewise have it through an exception that existed at that time. As is the case, there is nothing to bring into compliance.
Bloomington, IL - USA, Zephyr of Darkness	For
Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City	For
Cincinnati, OH - USA, Rage and Fury	For
Cambridge, MA - USA, The Midnight Rose	Against	Until there is a ruling on how this magic operates we don't believe pcs should be allowed it.
San Antonio, TX - USA, Libertatis Cunabula	Against

Votes Received	Voted NOT Received
Allentown, PA - USA, Steel Valley by Night	Alto Tietê, SP - Brazil, Sang Royal
Ann Arbor, MI - USA, Tower of Broken Glass	Atlanta, GA - USA, Demise of the Sovereign
Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus	Atlanta, GA - USA, Whispers of Atlanta
Bartow, FL - USA, Polk County Prophecies	Baltimore, MD - USA, Dark Harbor
Berkeley, CA - USA, Wasting the Dawn	Brasília, DF - Brazil, Caldas Novas
Bloomington, IL - USA, Zephyr of Darkness	Campinas, SP - Brazil, Império das Cinzas
Boston, MA - USA, Reclaimed	Cape Cod, MA - USA, Rage Across the Cape
Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy	Cedar Rapids, IA - USA, Five Nights
Brasília, DF - Brazil, Pacis Aeternae	Chicago, IL - USA, New Moon Rising
Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City	Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati
Cambridge, MA - USA, The Midnight Rose	Clarksburg, WV - USA, Echoes of Silent Valleys
Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem	Cleveland, OH - USA, Heartland Alliance
Chicago, IL - USA, Prey to Predator	Cleveland, OH - USA, Under an Eerie Moon
Cincinnati, OH - USA, Rage and Fury	Columbus, OH - USA, Columbus in Darkness
Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum	Columbus, OH - USA, Wyld Prophets
Dayton, OH - USA, Dying Embers	Curitiba, PR - Brazil, Curitiba By Night
Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within	Denver, CO - USA, Front Range Sabbat
Dubuque, IA - USA, Kingdom of Ashes	Dois Vizinhos, PR - Brazil, The Kingdom by Night - Immortal Royalty
Edwardsville, IL - USA, Caught in Eternal Twilight	Duluth, MN - USA, Thicker than Blood
Gary, IN - USA, Shattered Souls	Fargo, ND - USA, Within Shadow's Reach
Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique	Fortaleza, CE - Brazil, Land of The Sun
Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater	Fredericksburg, VA - USA, Caine's Chosen: Liberty in Death
Kenosha, WI - USA, Memento Mori	Gainesville, FL - USA, Won't Back Down
La Crosse, WI - USA, The Rivers Edge	Grady, GA - USA, Whispers of Grady
Lancaster, OH - USA, Never Ending Nights	Green Bay, WI - USA, Shattered Dreams
Macon, GA - USA, Stolen Hours	Hartford, CT - USA, Dark Colony
Madison, Wi - USA, Black Crusade	Indianapolis, IN - USA, Past is Prologue
Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture	João Pessoa, PB - Brazil, Eternal Shadows
Mossoro, RN - Brazil, Mossoro by Night	Joinville, SC - Brazil, Danse Macabre
New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York	Lakeland, FL - USA, Lagos de los Muertos
Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution	Lancaster, OH - USA, Mountains Dark Heart
Orland Park, IL - USA, Enigmas of Rage	Lexington, KY - USA, Panders Playground
Peoria, IL - USA, The Shattered Mirror	Lisbon, Lisbon - Portugal, Eternal Cursed Darkness
Rockland, NY - USA, Under The Rock	Londrina, PR - Brazil, Blood and Vendetta
Sacramento, CA - USA, Sacramento By Night	Los Angeles, CA - USA, Dark Side of the Moon
San Antonio, TX - USA, Libertatis Cunabula	Los Angeles, CA - USA, La Sangre De Los Angeles
Springfield, OH - USA, Ohio Knights Sabbat	Maldonado - Uruguay, Maldonado by Night: Magus et Artifex
Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night	Marquette, MI - USA, Shattered Tears over Rural Michigan
Twin Cities, MN, - USA, The Last Stand	Martinsburg, WV - USA, Martinsburg by Night
Winona, MN - USA, Winona Dark Haven	Mt. Dora, FL - USA, Mutual Alliance
	Nashville, IN - USA, Tea With Dragons
	Natal, RN - Brazil, Legacy of Blood
	New Orleans, LA - USA, Long Night
	New Rochelle, NY - USA, Seasons of Strange
	Northern Virginia, VA - USA, Night Falls
	Ouro Preto, MG - Brazil, Dying of the Light
	Peoria, IL - USA, The Far Dawn
	Philadelphia, PA - USA, Honor in the Shadows
	Phoenix, AZ - USA, Unchained Arizona
	Plainfield, IL - USA, Obsidian Shadows
	Portland, ME - USA, Blackened Veins
	Porto Alegre, RS - Brazil, Solo Doentio
	Providence, RI - USA, Hidden Flame
	Recife, PE - Brazil, Pernambuco by Night: Forever Haunted
	Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil, City of Wonders
	Rio Grande, RS - Brazil, Sobre a Areia Sempre Hostil
	Rio Grande, RS - Brazil, Uruguaiana By Night – Susurros de la Oscuridad
	Rohnert Park, CA - USA, Shadows Crossing
	Saint Paul, MN - USA, Obsidian Towers
	Salvador, BA - Brazil, Veritas Salvatore
	San Francisco, CA - USA, Always Comes Evening
	São Paulo, SP - Brazil, São Paulo by Night
	Savannah, GA - USA, City of Shadows
	Sheboygan, WI - USA, Blood on the Lake
	Springfield, IL - USA, Capitol City Cauldron
	St. Augustine, FL - USA, On Haunted Ground
	St. Louis, MO - USA, Shadows of St. Louis
	Tampa, FL - USA, Orlando: Magic Kingdom
	Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night
	Vale do Itajaí, SC - Brazil, Fear of the Dark
	Vale do Paraíba, SP - Brazil, Vale Sangrento
	Vitória, ES - Brazil, Blood and Darkness
	Washington, DC - USA, Shadows on the Horizon
	Wichita, KS - Rebellion in the Shadows
	Worcester County, MA - USA, Quabbin
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