[OWBN-Council] [PROPOSAL][EXCEPTION] OWBN Fundraiser 2.0

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Proposal Type: Other Public
Opened: 27-Oct-2023 12:00AM EDT
Closing: 03-Nov-2023 12:00AM EDT


Since version 1.0 failed (was pretty close) to get a 2/3rd Majority vote.  I took the feedback from the comments of that vote and have updated the proposal to version 2.0!

The proposal is below, but here are the three major changes!

1.  The Experience rewarded from this fundraiser may now be spent on anything an ST approves.  I have removed the book keeping issues with that.
2. For new characters, I have added that if this fundraiser surpasses the now 60 starting xp floor for new characters, it becomes the new floor.  This is so new players may always benefit from this fundraiser.
3.  While THIS proposal can not dictate how this money is spent (that HAS to be a separate proposal, that's how this works.  No matter how much you or i would want to include it in this proposal), I have made it clear.  This money is to be spent on a new website AND to pay for the services (translation bots and google services) that coords are CURRENTLY paying out of their own pocket for.

I hope with these changes this can pass now!  I have listened to your comments and adjusted accordingly!  See the proposal below!

I, Adam Sartori, Council Member for Kings of New York, propose the following Fundraiser for OWBN:

One World by Night will be fund raising via donations to help fund our organization’s Marketing Budget, pay for the creation of a new website for the organization, or any other use of these funds as dictated by a future council proposal.  As such, we are proposing the following reward tiers for donations made to One World by Night by its members:  This fund raiser will be a one-time exception to the OWBN Character bylaws in regards to experience points.  The rewards tiers for donations are listed below:

·         If we raise 1,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 10 additional experience points

·         If we raise 2,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 25 additional experience points

·         If we raise 4,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 50 additional experience points

·         If we raise 6,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 75 additional experience points

·         If we raise 8,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 85 additional experience points

·         If we raise 10,000 dollars, every character in OWBN gains 100 additional experience points

All currently active and eligible One World by Night characters at the conclusion of this fundraiser can be awarded these additional experience points to their characters with storyteller approval, and based on what the final amount of money was raised.  These additional experience points may be spent in any way as approved by their Storytelling staff,

All approval and awards of experience points from this fundraiser are subject to the approval of the character’s storytelling staff and any coordinator approval for restricted items.  Additionally, these additional experience points do count in the character total experience points for the purposes of determining future experience points.  The Fundraiser's additional experience points count towards a player's total experience points when they spend these experience points, not when they earn it.

Any brand new player to OWBN in the year 2024 and going forward may apply this bonus experience points from this fundraiser to their new characters. After which, if the fundraiser goal in rewards for experience points exceeds the current allowed bonus of 60 experience points for new characters, it will replace it with the achieved experience point number from this fundraiser going forward. This may increase the floor of starting bonus experience points, should the fund raiser reach this goal.  This so all future characters in OWBN may benefit from it.

This fundraiser shall be managed, run, and promoted by the OWBN Marketing Coordinator and the funds raised shall be collected and managed by the OWBN Finance Coordinator per their normal duties in the OWBN bylaws.

This fund raiser shall run from 11/01/2023 until 3/01/2024.

Donations will be accepted through the official OWBN website and managed by the OWBN Webcoordinator.


Reasoning:  In order for OWBN to grow and succeed as an organization we can no longer simply rely on the good will of others.  We will require money as an actual organization.  We have previously been quoted in the thousands of dollars range to build a new website for the organization, which we have desperately needed for years.

We also need a substantial marketing budget for our Marketing coordinator.  This will allow us to to advertise and promote OWBN. We may also use it for other things that Coordinators are currently paying out of pocket for.  Please remember, all use of OWBN funds requires a Council Proposal and vote.  Thus these funds raised can be used for anything that helps the org as a whole.

Additionally, Coordinators are currently paying out of pocket expenses to do their jobs.  These funds should be used to pay for these instead and not out of the pockets of the coordinators.

The end result of both will be an increase of players and interest in One World by Night which benefits all member chronicles.

Once we have a budget established, subsequent proposals can be made to spend the money earned on OWBN to distribute these funds.  We can not create a budget out of theoretical money.  We need to balance what we have, not what we could have. The Web Coordinator has given us quotes.  The Coordinators have stated they are paying out of pocket.  This is the only means to fix these issues.  For reference the priority of how this money will be spent:

A New Website for OWBN

Paying for the services Coordinators are currently paying out pocket for, for the org.  Such as discord translation bots our cloud services.


Concern about Experience Point Bloat:  While concern over increased experience points for character in OWBN is a valid concern, I would like to address why to myself it is not a concern for me.  During the Year of Smoke OWBN proposed and passed an additional 100xp for all starting Jocastican and Mysemsoyne characters (Or a lesser amount for existing ones.).  We also limited what those experience points could be spent on. As a result, from that proposal, I can confidently state there was little to no real impact on owbn game play from that experience point boost.

Furthermore, I feel charity retests are also not an ideal answer.  I have largely seen that be turned into “Pay to Win” in the sense of just buying retests until the player wins the challenge.  I find that, as a Storyteller to be more disrupting to my telling of a story then experience points.  But that is my experience with it.

Additionally, this is unilaterally fair to all players regardless of if they can donate to the fundraiser or not.  It does not discriminate between those that can afford to donate to the fund raiser and those that cannot.  Everyone in the organization will benefit from it.

While some may be uncomfortable with rewarding experience point for making fundraising goals, the reality is that it is the only real economy that OWBN has to offer its members as incentives.  While some may not like that fact, it is hard to argue that it will not result in a successful fundraising campaign that in the end will only benefit all member chronicles and the organization as a whole.  We are asking for that trust that 100xp (should it reach that goal) will not, ultimately have a large negative impact of the players of One World by Night in the grand scheme of things.

This proposal will require a second and is a 2/3rd Majority Exception vote.


Adam Sartori
HST and CM for Kings of New York
Subcoord for: Sabbat, Ravnos, Assamite, Ventrue, Salubri, Tremere, Lasombra and Hunter

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