[OWBN-Council] [Proposal][Bylaws] Lasombra & Abyss Lore

Status message

Displaying output for plurality voting

Open Votes

Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision

Opened: 11-Jun-2022 12:00AM EDT

Closing: 18-Jun-2022 12:00AM EDT

Hello Council!

Pursuant to Coordinator bylaw §3.C.iii , as the Lasombra Coordinator, I, Anthony Nordman, propose the following additions to the One World by Night Character Regulation bylaws -

Add to Character bylaw 10.m.i Abilities and Lores the following

xx. Lore: Abyss 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Lasombra
xx. Lore: Abyss 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Notify - Coordinator: Lasombra
xx. Lore: Lasombra for Non-Lasombra 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Lasombra
xx. Lore: Lasombra for Non-Lasombra 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Notify - Coordinator: Lasombra

Rationale: High level Abyss Lore is akin to high level Wyrm/Wyld/Weaver Lore, in that it drives you mad with knowing too much, and in turn makes you known to the Abyss. Lasombra Lore is being brought up as levels 4 and 5 due to the clan secrets revealed at such levels.

This has the potential to autopass.

Regards,
Anthony
Lasombra Coordinator

File / Document: No file attachments for this vote.

Ballot Options

For

Against

Abstain

26 out of 160 eligible voters cast their ballot

For

81% (21 votes)

Against

15% (4 votes)

Abstain

4% (1 vote)

Chronicle/Position	Voted for	Comment
Twin Cities, MN, - USA, The Last Stand	For	Even though we are a CB Chronicle, there have been scholars of vampiric magic and cosmology in our game before who have specifically explored the nature of the Lasombra Packet version of the Abyss and its connection to the Abyss Umbral Realm (though none of said are alive anymore or made it to OWBN). While it is unlikely this will happen again, we are not going to entirely discount the possibility that this ruling might impact our game. The logic presented makes sense and is aligned with the rules for Triatic lore. As it has been explicitly specified that this prop does not count for lore pertaining to being a scholar of the Abyss Umbral Realm ruled by the Nightmaster, we are happy to abide by this should it become something we need to worry about in the future.
Dubuque, IA - USA, Kingdom of Ashes	Abstain	Speaking as a CM for what was once a Sabbat game, I don't see why this is necessary, save to regulate a Lore purely to regulate a Lore.
New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York	For	Again this covers the lore abyss ability that's been part of lasombra genre and it's packets for years.
St. Louis, MO - USA, Shadows of St. Louis	For
Campinas, SP - Brazil, Império das Cinzas	For
Rio Grande, RS - Brazil, Sobre a Areia Sempre Hostil	For
Mt. Dora, FL - USA, Mutual Alliance	For
Cape Cod, MA - USA, Rage Across the Cape	For
Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night	Against
Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within	For
Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night	For
Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater	Against
Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum	For	We do see the value of this and are For it for that reason, but we do also recognize the bylaw bloat potential and the additional archivist work.
Allentown, PA - USA, Steel Valley by Night	For
Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati	For
Columbus, OH - USA, Columbus in Darkness	For
Lexington, KY - USA, Panders Playground	For	Per staff discussion.
Alto Tietê, SP - Brazil, Sang Royal	For
Boston, MA - USA, Reclaimed	For
Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus	For
Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy	Against	The approval is the same for both Lasombra and non-Lasombra, there’s no need to have them separated.
Gainesville, FL - USA, Won't Back Down	For
Peoria, IL - USA, The Far Dawn	For
Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City	For
Grady, GA - USA, Whispers of Grady	Against
San Antonio, TX - USA, Libertatis Cunabula	For

Votes Received	Voted NOT Received
Allentown, PA - USA, Steel Valley by Night	Ann Arbor, MI - USA, Tower of Broken Glass
Alto Tietê, SP - Brazil, Sang Royal	Atlanta, GA - USA, Demise of the Sovereign
Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus	Atlanta, GA - USA, Whispers of Atlanta
Boston, MA - USA, Reclaimed	Auburn, CA - USA, Lux Tenebras
Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy	Baltimore, MD - USA, Dark Harbor
Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City	Bartow, FL - USA, Polk County Prophecies
Campinas, SP - Brazil, Império das Cinzas	Berkeley, CA - USA, Wasting the Dawn
Cape Cod, MA - USA, Rage Across the Cape	Bloomington, IL - USA, Zephyr of Darkness
Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati	Brasília, DF - Brazil, Caldas Novas
Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum	Brasília, DF - Brazil, Pacis Aeternae
Columbus, OH - USA, Columbus in Darkness	Cambridge, MA - USA, The Midnight Rose
Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within	Cedar Falls, IA - USA, Blackhawk Co. by Night
Dubuque, IA - USA, Kingdom of Ashes	Cedar Rapids, IA - USA, Five Nights
Gainesville, FL - USA, Won't Back Down	Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem
Grady, GA - USA, Whispers of Grady	Chicago, IL - USA, New Moon Rising
Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater	Chicago, IL - USA, Prey to Predator
Lexington, KY - USA, Panders Playground	Cincinnati, OH - USA, Rage and Fury
Mt. Dora, FL - USA, Mutual Alliance	Clarksburg, WV - USA, Echoes of Silent Valleys
New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York	Cleveland, OH - USA, Heartland Alliance
Peoria, IL - USA, The Far Dawn	Cleveland, OH - USA, Under an Eerie Moon
Rio Grande, RS - Brazil, Sobre a Areia Sempre Hostil	Columbus, OH - USA, Wyld Prophets
San Antonio, TX - USA, Libertatis Cunabula	Curitiba, PR - Brazil, Curitiba By Night
St. Louis, MO - USA, Shadows of St. Louis	Dayton, OH - USA, Dying Embers
Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night	Denver, CO - USA, Front Range Sabbat
Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night	Dois Vizinhos, PR - Brazil, The Kingdom by Night - Immortal Royalty
Twin Cities, MN, - USA, The Last Stand	Duluth, MN - USA, Thicker than Blood
	Edwardsville, IL - USA, Caught in Eternal Twilight
	Fargo, ND - USA, Within Shadow's Reach
	Fortaleza, CE - Brazil, Land of The Sun
	Fredericksburg, VA - USA, Caine's Chosen: Liberty in Death
	Gary, IN - USA, Shattered Souls
	Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique
	Green Bay, WI - USA, Shattered Dreams
	Hartford, CT - USA, Dark Colony
	Indianapolis, IN - USA, Past is Prologue
	João Pessoa, PB - Brazil, Eternal Shadows
	Joinville, SC - Brazil, Danse Macabre
	Kenosha, WI - USA, Memento Mori
	La Crosse, WI - USA, The Rivers Edge
	Lakeland, FL - USA, Lagos de los Muertos
	Lancaster, OH - USA, Mountains Dark Heart
	Lancaster, OH - USA, Never Ending Nights
	Lewiston/Auburn, ME - USA, Shadows and Light
	Londrina, PR - Brazil, Blood and Vendetta
	Los Angeles, CA - USA, Dark Side of the Moon
	Los Angeles, CA - USA, La Sangre De Los Angeles
	Macon, GA - USA, Stolen Hours
	Madison, Wi - USA, Black Crusade
	Maldonado - Uruguay, Maldonado by Night: Magus et Artifex
	Martinsburg, WV - USA, Martinsburg by Night
	Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture
	Mossoro, RN - Brazil, Mossoro by Night
	Nashville, IN - USA, Tea With Dragons
	Natal, RN - Brazil, Legacy of Blood
	New Orleans, LA - USA, Long Night
	New Rochelle, NY - USA, Seasons of Strange
	Northern Virginia, VA - USA, Night Falls
	Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution
	Orland Park, IL - USA, Enigmas of Rage
	Ouro Preto, MG - Brazil, Dying of the Light
	Peoria, IL - USA, The Shattered Mirror
	Philadelphia, PA - USA, Honor in the Shadows
	Phoenix, AZ - USA, Unchained Arizona
	Plainfield, IL - USA, Obsidian Shadows
	Portland, ME - USA, Blackened Veins
	Porto Alegre, RS - Brazil, Solo Doentio
	Providence, RI - USA, Hidden Flame
	Recife, PE - Brazil, Pernambuco by Night: Forever Haunted
	Rio de Janeiro, RJ - Brazil, City of Wonders
	Rockland, NY - USA, Under The Rock
	Rohnert Park, CA - USA, Shadows Crossing
	Sacramento, CA - USA, Sacramento By Night
	Saint Paul, MN - USA, Obsidian Towers
	Salvador, BA - Brazil, Veritas Salvatore
	San Francisco, CA - USA, Always Comes Evening
	São Paulo, SP - Brazil, São Paulo by Night
	Savannah, GA - USA, City of Shadows
	Sheboygan, WI - USA, Blood on the Lake
	Springfield, IL - USA, Capitol City Cauldron
	Springfield, OH - USA, Ohio Knights Sabbat
	St. Augustine, FL - USA, On Haunted Ground
	Tampa, FL - USA, Orlando: Magic Kingdom
	Vale do Itajaí, SC - Brazil, Fear of the Dark
	Vale do Paraíba, SP - Brazil, Vale Sangrento
	Vitória, ES - Brazil, Blood and Darkness
	Washington, DC - USA, Shadows on the Horizon
	Wichita, KS - Rebellion in the Shadows
	Winona, MN - USA, Winona Dark Haven
	Worcester County, MA - USA, Quabbin
	AHC 1
	AHC 2
	Anarch Coordinator
	Archivist
	Archivist 1
	Archivist 2
	Archivist 3
	Archivist 4
	Assamite
	Brujah
	Camarilla
	Changeling
	Changing Breeds
	Demon
	Documents
	Exec Team
	Finance
	Followers of Set
	Gangrel
	Giovanni
	Head Coord
	Hengeyokai
	Historian
	Hunter
	Kuei-Jin
	Lasombra
	Mage
	Malkavian
	Marketing
	Mediation
	Mediation - North America
	Mediation - South America
	Membership
	Mummy
	Nosferatu
	Ravnos
	Sabbat
	Salubri
	Stub
	Toreador
	Tremere
	Tzimisce
	Ventrue
	Web
	Wraith