PC Tremere Lords
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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 10-Oct-2001 1:00AM EDT
Closing: 11-Oct-2001 1:00AM EDT
I re-request that council take to vote the issues of pc lords.
I request the following choices.
PC lords are allowed as per the current Tremere Coord Genere rules.
PC Lords are NOT allowed and such any current PC must either give up his/herSports brandsSneakers Nike
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Ballot Options Do
Allow
Abstain
1 out of 155 eligible voters cast their ballot
Do
72% (46 votes)
Allow
19% (12 votes)
Abstain
9% (6 votes)
| Chronicle/Position | Voted for | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York | Abstain | |
| Berkeley, CA - USA, Wasting the Dawn | Allow | I am firmly of the opinion that, should a character be powerful enough and a player responsible enough, the option of promoting a PC to the position of Lord should be open. |
| Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture | Do | |
| Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night | Abstain | |
| Winona, MN - USA, Winona Dark Haven | Do | |
| Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution | Allow | |
| Fargo, ND - USA, Within Shadow's Reach | Do | |
| Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum | Do | |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati | Do | Not allowing PC lords as a general Rule is a good Idea. If the player and character is deserving enough of the role, then Council will make the decision through a use of Article 2. |
| Columbus, OH - USA, Columbus in Darkness | Do | |
| Springfield, IL - USA, Capitol City Cauldron | Do | Owbn has too many NPC Lords we need to cut down on that number before we even consider allowing PC Lords. |
| Washington, DC - USA, Shadows on the Mall | Do | |
| Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique | Allow | |
| Iowa City, IA - USA, L'Ange Noir | Do | |
| Northern Virginia, VA - USA, Night Falls | Abstain | We are a game that has a PC lord. I also consider a PC lord to be no different than a PC Archon, save that the power they have is within the clan alone rather than Cam wide.*Due to disagreement of ST staff vote changed to Abstain pending final Decision* |
| Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus | Do | Promotion of a PC to Lord rank has severe repercussions on the surrounding chronicles. I am not happy with the way nearby chronicles were not consulted at all when a Tremere PC was given the rank of Lord in the past. I also feel it was accomplished far too easily. Upwardly mobile Tremere should expect to spend at least a century or so at the rank of regent. There may be special cases where an especially deserving PC might attain the rank of Lord, but I'd rather see an article 2 proposal to Council in that instance. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | By allowing a PC Lord, you allow a PC to be in control of several games worth of Tremere, and thus the STs have little to no input on how the Pyramid is run in thier own game, assuming of course that the pyramid is run correctly. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | By allowing a PC Lord, you allow a PC to be in control of several games worth of Tremere, and thus the STs have little to no input on how the Pyramid is run in thier own game, assuming of course that the pyramid is run correctly. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Allow | |
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| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | |
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| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Allow | While I am not completely in favor of PC Lords I trust the judgement of the coord and if any problems arise in such situation, can deal accordingly. As the only pontifex coord with a PC Lord, Lord King, I have recieved regular reports and AIM conversations that make me feel that overall if anyone else were deemed worthy then I'm OK so long as communication is kept open. Anyone who wishes to get any additional personal information may email me privately at storyteller'@eotr.org. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Allow | While I am not completely in favor of PC Lords I trust the judgement of the coord and if any problems arise in such situation, can deal accordingly. As the only pontifex coord with a PC Lord, Lord King, I have recieved regular reports and AIM conversations that make me feel that overall if anyone else were deemed worthy then I'm OK so long as communication is kept open. Anyone who wishes to get any additional personal information may email me privately at storyteller'@eotr.org. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Allow | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Allow | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | Difficult on the player of said lord, and possiblity of mis/very bad communication between several ST crews and Player very high. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | Difficult on the player of said lord, and possiblity of mis/very bad communication between several ST crews and Player very high. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | |
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| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | I am a very conservative person in regard to clan Tremere. It is my personal opinion that the clan ''flaw'' for Tremere is greatly understated in OWBN. I feel even that PC regents should be few and far between let alone Lords. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | I am a very conservative person in regard to clan Tremere. It is my personal opinion that the clan ''flaw'' for Tremere is greatly understated in OWBN. I feel even that PC regents should be few and far between let alone Lords. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | Per game participant suggestions: We feel that PC lordsshouldn't be allowed because of large area of influence between chronicles. We also feel that NPC lords should actually start enforcing Pyramid stucture and goals. |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Do | Per game participant suggestions: We feel that PC lordsshouldn't be allowed because of large area of influence between chronicles. We also feel that NPC lords should actually start enforcing Pyramid stucture and goals. |
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