Rare & Unique Combo Disciplines
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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 08-Feb-2006 1:00AM EST
Closing: 11-Feb-2006 1:00AM EST
Esteemed Council Members,
I propose to make custom combo disciplines fall under the Rare R&U Category. Custom combo disciplines shall be defined as those combination disciplines created by a player or storyteller for use in game for PC or NPC use.
If an NPC teaches this custom combo discipline to a PC, that discipline shall go to vote as though the power was created by the PC.
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For
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1 out of 155 eligible voters cast their ballot
Against
81% (60 votes)
For
14% (10 votes)
Abstain
5% (4 votes)
| Chronicle/Position | Voted for | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| St. Petersburg, FL - USA, Faces of Change | Against | This falls under House Rules. If your game wants them they can be allowed, if your game doesn't they can disallow them(including from visiting PCs). |
| Los Angeles, CA - USA, La Sangre De Los Angeles | Against | |
| Saint Paul, MN - USA, Obsidian Towers | Against | |
| Iowa City, IA - USA, Fields of Rage | Against | |
| Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture | Against | |
| Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night | Against | In the Camarilla it works like this: ''Custom powers of any kind require Top Approval, including any new custom Discipline, custom Superior Disciplines, and custom Thaumaturgy paths.'' if only we played in the Camarilla... |
| Philadelphia, PA - USA, Nusquam | Against | |
| Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem | For | This vote was the subject of much debate among our admin staff and our playerbase, and it came down to a very close player vote. To sum up our game's opinion, we feel that custom powers - whether combo or not - should be regulated per R&U. Those in our game who voted against this prop were in favor the concept, but wanted a better wording of the prop with more clearly defined terms. I believe Chicago would support a re-drafted proposal of this same concept, should this vote fail. |
| Fredericksburg, VA - USA, Caine's Chosen: Liberty in Death | Against | I dont have enough space to list the reasons we voted against this prop. among them is simply the fact of this being the second prop from the same rep and as such we had little or no desire to discuss it to any extent as it seemed nothing more then one game trying to enforce there ideas on other games. I have yet to hear of a single instance of this being abused. it may have been, but supporting evidence listing when and where wouldve been helpful. If this is resubmitted with supporting evidence listing what problems these powers have caused, what those powers were and where they came from(ie home game) and was the only prop from the rep that week it might warent further discussion. |
| Indianapolis, IN - USA, Stars Never Rise | Against | |
| Auburn, CA - USA, Lux Tenebras | Against | This is a good idea, but something which should be regulated by House Rules, and Under Night's Cloak is right. Personally, I don't see the need to regulate Inceptors so closely, and think that could be left to House Rules too. |
| Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution | Against | |
| San Francisco, CA - USA, Always Comes Evening | For | |
| Providence, RI - USA, Hidden Flame | Against | |
| Atlanta, GA - USA, Whispers of Atlanta | Against | |
| Fargo, ND - USA, Within Shadow's Reach | Against | |
| Cleveland, OH - USA, Carpe Noctum | Against | |
| Dayton, OH - USA, Dying Embers | Against | |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati | Against | |
| Columbus, OH - USA, Columbus in Darkness | Against | |
| Springfield, IL - USA, Capitol City Cauldron | Against | |
| Washington, DC - USA, Shadows on the Mall | Against | |
| Phoenix, AZ - USA, Secundus Surrectum | For | Why on earth should it be easy to get custom powers in the first place, let alone teach them? |
| Amador, CA - USA, River of Shadows | Against | |
| Kenosha, WI - USA, Memento Mori | Against | If someone Proposed to simply ban all player-made disciplines and combos, I would vote for it. |
| Harrisonburg, VA: Death in the Valley | Against | More paperwork. This isn't something I support for R&U. If you don't let the power, don't let it in your game. |
| Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique | Against | |
| Iowa City, IA - USA, L'Ange Noir | Against | |
| St. Augustine, FL - USA, On Haunted Ground | Against | Altho we may be supportive of something that limits cross-genre combo's from happening (aka Cam Princes with King of the Hill). Otherwise, leave it to the chronicles. |
| Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus | For | This proposal closes up a fairly large loophole in R&U. While there may have not been any large abuses of player created combo powers, there is still a strong possibility of it happening. Any Combo power that isn't in the printed material should really be going through council as it is. Currently there is no regulation on these powers and that just isn't right. Heck we more heavily regulate Inceptor powers for thin bloods than we regulate Custom Combo Powers. Though these powers can be regulated within each game, council should still get a look and a say about them. |
| Edwardsville, IL - USA, Caught in Eternal Twilight | For | Regaurdless of people voting against it due to other reasons (i.e. Russ's stream of props) this is a good prop. Why? Because if we are going to take away Elder Powers for all games, why allow custom combo disciplines? At least this makes them harder to come by. Plus, rumors of a PC working on a Potence/Necro combo scare us. They should scare you too. ''I'm potent enough to Soul Steal you .... I have the bomb and I win on ties ....''. *twitch* |
| Baltimore, MD - USA, Dark Harbor | Against | |
| AHC 1 | Abstain | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Against | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Against | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Abstain | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Abstain | |
| Reclamation | Against | Putting this as an option in the R&U guidelines gives making them at all credibility. Why legitimatize something that should just be NO? |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Against | |
| Chronicle/Position Unknown | Against |