[POLL] Genre/Sect Coordinators having in genre PCs
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Proposal Type: Opinion Poll
Opened: 14-Jun-2025 12:00AM EDT
Closing: 28-Jun-2025 12:00AM EDT
This has been an off and on topic over the years and is a question in almost every election that decides many chronicle’s votes. Should Coordinators be permitted to play PCs of the genres they oversee? Many agree this is clear conflict of interest, especially for Clan Coordinators. Most offices have a rule against it.
I'd like to gage the org's opinion on this topic. Feel free to discuss here and I'll be opening up two polls for Council to vote on. These polls will be open for two weeks and will decide what bylaws are proposed, if any, about this issue.
Poll 2: Can Sect/Genre Coords (not Clan Coords) portray active PCs of the Genre their office oversees?
1. Up to the Coordinator.
2. The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can.
3. The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee, i.e. a Sabbat Subcoord who oversees the Moderates faction can't play a Moderate PC, the CB Subcoord who oversees the Bonegnawer tribe can't play a Bonegnawer PC.
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Ballot Options Up to the Coordinator.
The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can.
The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee
Abstain
49 out of 155 eligible voters cast their ballot
Results (using Instant Run-Off):
Event log for this vote:
Results (using Instant Run-Off):
- The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee (53.1%)
- Up to the Coordinator.
- The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can.
- Abstain
| Rounds | 1 |
|---|---|
| Up to the Coordinator. | 16 |
| The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. | 7 |
| The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee | 26 |
| Abstain | 0 |
Event log for this vote:
- Round 1: Option "Abstain" had zero votes for 1st choice and therefore is eliminated.
| Chronicle/Position | Voted for | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| Marquette, MI - USA, Shattered Tears over Rural Michigan | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Joinville, SC - Brazil, Danse Macabre | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Brasília, DF - Brazil, Caldas Novas | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | Unfortunately, in Brazil we see sub-coordinators with questionable attitudes towards other players that harm their character or actions that their character is doing. Unfortunately, it is subjective and there is no way to prove it, but it should be prohibited. |
| Chicago, IL - USA, Prey to Predator | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Minneapolis, MN - USA, Swift to Shed Blood | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Los Angeles, CA - USA, La Sangre De Los Angeles | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Campinas, SP - Brazil, Império das Cinzas | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| São Paulo, SP - Brazil, São Paulo by Night | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Mt. Dora, FL - USA, Mutual Alliance | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Mossoro, RN - Brazil, Mossoro by Night | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| La Crosse, WI - USA, The Rivers Edge | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Abstain | |
| Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: Abstain | |
| Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | As long as the coord is making no rules or bylaws or gaining any approvals from said genre, we don't care. we are not punishing a coord for volunteering. |
| Philadelphia, PA - USA, Honor in the Shadows | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | Coord's should be very involved in the genre they oversee. Coords should not be approving themselves for anything. |
| Bartow, FL - USA, Polk County Prophecies | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Cleveland, OH - USA, An Uncertain Destiny | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | When someone covers a whole genre, that is harder to deal with. You can get cut off from whole chronicles if they aren't multi-genre, maybe something local and live. That's a much harsher burden than just asking someone to change characters while being able to play in the same games. Let them play. Maybe stop people from giving themselves approvals, but don't force them to shelve their PCs. |
| Sacramento, CA - USA, Sacramento By Night | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Fredericksburg, VA - USA, Caine's Chosen: Liberty in Death | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 4th: Abstain | |
| Norwalk, CT - USA, Rails of Revolution | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: Abstain | |
| Atlanta, GA - USA, Whispers of Atlanta | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Abstain | |
| Dayton, OH - USA, Dying Embers | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Abstain | |
| Orland Park, IL - USA, Enigmas of Rage | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Macon, GA - USA, Stolen Hours | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Recife, PE - Brazil, Pernambuco by Night: Forever Haunted | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Ouro Preto, MG - Brazil, Dying of the Light | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain |
| Portland, ME - USA, Blackened Veins | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: Abstain | |
| Lexington, KY - USA, Panders Playground | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Gary, IN - USA, Shattered Souls | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Los Angeles, CA - USA, Dark Side of the Moon | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Columbus, OH - USA, Wyld Prophets | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Gimli, MB - Canada, Sang Nordique | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| St. Augustine, FL - USA, On Haunted Ground | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Rohnert Park, CA - USA, Shadows Crossing | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Ann Arbor, MI - USA, Tower of Broken Glass | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Northern Virginia, VA - USA, Night Falls | 1st: Up to the Coordinator. 2nd: Abstain | |
| Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Chicago, IL - USA, New Moon Rising | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Abstain | |
| Hartford, CT - USA, Dark Colony | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 2nd: Up to the Coordinator. 3rd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 4th: Abstain | |
| Vale do Itajaí, SC - Brazil, Fear of the Dark | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Rage and Fury | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: Abstain | |
| Grady, GA - USA, Whispers of Grady | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain | |
| Cambridge, MA - USA, The Midnight Rose | 1st: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre and their subcoords can't play something they oversee 2nd: The Coord can't play national level PCs of their genre, but their subcoords can. 3rd: Up to the Coordinator. 4th: Abstain |