[SECOND] [AMENDMENT] [BYLAW REVISION] Glass Ceiling for Actions and Traits for Vampire

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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 04-Feb-2025 12:00AM EST
Closing: 11-Feb-2025 12:00AM EST


I, Adam Sartori, CM and HST for Kings of New York propose the following addition to the OWBN Character bylaws:
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6.a.iv. Vampire PCs may never bid more than 30 Traits on any challenge they enter for purposes of ties.

6.a.v A Vampire PC may never take more than 10 Actions in a single round of combat regardless of source or power.

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Reasoning:  I was originally just going to prop to remove specific custom content that does this in the database…but then I found several of them.  The ability to just bid as many traits as one wants with Tie granting powers is horribly unbalanced and never intended in the system.  These pieces of custom content game break the fundamental core rules of Vampire the Masquerade LARP mechanics and should not be allowed.  As such, we feel the need to add this to the Glass Ceiling bylaws of OWBN Characters.  Even though I would say the vast majority of OWBN vampire games do not allow bids higher than 30, ones that do exist and we do not find that balanced or fair for across org play.  

Additionally, I have proposed an addition to the Glass Ceiling bylaw a cap on how many actions a vampire PC is allowed to take in a single turn of combat.  It is becoming increasingly common for Vampire PCs to gain extra actions from a variety of sources outside of those presented in a vampire book. We are now in a time in the org where Vampire PCs are bidding hundreds of traits and taking dozens of actions a round in combat.  To the vast majority of OWBN PCs that cannot achieve this feat, it is unfair to the majority that a small minority of PCs can do this.  We feel this proposal will help balance those issues organization wide.

 

Yes, these are “universal house rules” for the org.  But we feel they are reasonable and used by the majority of games already and will help make things far more fair and balanced across the org.  We already limit PCs in the bylaws, we apparently also need to limit this now as well.  This also will NOT impact any other genre but Vampire.  I would say for 90% of the games in the org, this bylaw change will have zero impact on their game should it pass.

This proposal will require a Second.

Thanks,

Adam Sartori
HST and CM for Kings of New York
Subcoord for: Sabbat, Ravnos, Assamite, Salubri, Tremere, and Hunter

 

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