[Demon Proposal] Fallen Rarity Changes [Autopass][Revised]
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Hopefully final revision! Thanks to everyone who helped :)
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Proposal
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Pursuant to Coordinator Bylaw 3.C.iii, as the Demon Coordinator, I, David Niemitz, in my duties as said Coordinator, hereby propose the following Bylaw changes, in conjunction with the vote to replace the current OWBN Fallen Packet (2017) with the revised Packet, The Player’s Guide to the Fallen.
This proposal carries the potential to autopass.
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Bylaws Now
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i.DEMON CONTROLLED ITEMS
iii. Merits and Flaws
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Demonic Heritage: Laham - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demonic Tutor - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demonic Patron - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Unbound Diabolist - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Blessed - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Baali Apostate - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Unholy Aura - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Covenant of the old ways - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Blasphemous Pact - PC: Disallowed as a merit - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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iv Powers
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Daimonion Based Combination Disciplines possessed by Non-Baali - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Dark Thaumaturgy Combination Disciplines possessed by Non-Infernalists - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Usage of Investment: Relentless - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments 1-2 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments 3 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments not defined in the document OWbN Infernalism: Path of Screams and Blood
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Out-of-Parent-Genre powers not printed as investments in any white wolf material for PCs - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Council Vote - Coordinator: Demon
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Custom powers as Investments - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Non Baali/Angellis/Baali Apostates with Daimonion - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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vi Backgrounds
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Wells of Sacrifice lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Wells of Sacrifice lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Nest Membership lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Nest Membership lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Altar lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Altar lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Diabolist Circles lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Diabolist Circles lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Infernal Ranking - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Infernal Relic 4-5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Fallen Rank 3+ PC Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demon: the Fallen Backgrounds for Non-Demons - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Disallowed - Coordinator: Demon
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vii: Other listings
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Demon: the Fallen Backgrounds for Non-Demons - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Disallowed - Coordinator: Demon
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Includes but is not limited to Eminence, Followers, Legacy, Pacts, Paragon, Rites, Thralls
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Membership in select Baali cults is restricted to Coordinator approval.
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Cult of Kupalla - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon, Tzimisce
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Order of the Wyrm - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon, Tremere
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Non Baali/Baali Apostates on Path of Hive (Clan book Baali, Chaining the Beast, Tal Mahe Ra Guide to the Black Hand versions) - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Bylaws After:
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i.DEMON CONTROLLED ITEMS
iii. Merits and Flaws
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Demonic Heritage: Laham - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demonic Tutor - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demonic Patron - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Unbound Diabolist - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Blessed - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Baali Apostate - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Unholy Aura - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Covenant of the old ways - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Blasphemous Pact - PC: Disallowed as a merit - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Penitent Merit for Reconcilers - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify
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Penitent Merit for non-Reconcilers - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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iv Powers
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Daimonion Based Combination Disciplines possessed by Non-Baali - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Dark Thaumaturgy Combination Disciplines possessed by Non-Infernalists - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Usage of Investment: Relentless - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments 1-2 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Unregulated - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments 3 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Investments not defined in the document OWbN Infernalism: Path of Screams and Blood
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Out-of-Parent-Genre powers not printed as investments in any white wolf material for PCs - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Council Vote - Coordinator: Demon
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Custom powers as Investments - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Non Baali/Angellis/Baali Apostates with Daimonion - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Use of Lore of Spirit 5: Restore the Dead targeting a Fallen, Semi-Supernatural, Mortal or Wraith PC or former PC - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Use of Lore of Spirit 5: Restore the Dead targeting a former PC of any Full Supernatural genre but Fallen or Wraith - PC Disallowed - NPC Disallowed
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vi Backgrounds
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Wells of Sacrifice lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Wells of Sacrifice lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Nest Membership lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Nest Membership lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Altar lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Altar lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Diabolist Circles lvl 4 - PC: Coordinator Notify - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Diabolist Circles lvl 5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Infernal Ranking - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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Infernal Relic 4-5 - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Fallen Rank 3+ PC Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Demon: the Fallen Backgrounds for Non-Demons - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Disallowed - Coordinator: Demon
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Demon: The Fallen Background: Cult 5 - PC Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon
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vii: Other listings
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Demon: the Fallen Backgrounds for Non-Demons - PC: Disallowed - NPC: Disallowed - Coordinator: Demon
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Includes but is not limited to Eminence, Followers, Legacy, Pacts, Paragon, Rites, Thralls
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Membership in select Baali cults is restricted to Coordinator approval.
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Cult of Kupalla - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon, Tzimisce
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Order of the Wyrm - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Notify - Coordinator: Demon, Tremere
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Non Baali/Baali Apostates on Path of Hive (Clan book Baali, Chaining the Beast, Tal Mahe Ra Guide to the Black Hand versions) - PC: Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Enchanted Relics with more than one effect or evocation: PC Coordinator Approval - NPC Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Torment Score below 1 - PC Coordinator Approval - NPC: Coordinator Approval - Coordinator: Demon
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Rationale
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There are several things being changed here. First, the Penitent Merit, from the Dark Ages Book Devil’s Due, is being added. For something not in the core material (Devil’s Due Demons are quite different, with an entirely different power set) it has proliferated more than I am comfortable with. Going forward it will require a bit more work for anyone who isn’t a Reconciler to get.
Secondly, the Demon: The Fallen printing of Cult 5 is being restricted because it involves a demon PC having hundreds of worshippers “spread across an entire region.” This is, by definition, beyond the scope of a home chronicle, and should have buy in from neighboring chronicles before it is permitted. The language of the bylaw is very specific so as to not affect printings of a ‘Cult’ Background with different mechanics for other genres.
The bylaw affecting Lore of Spirit 5 I modelled after the way Spring 5 is handled, as it is a time-limited resurrection effect (no more than 48 hours may have passed since death).
The section on Enchanted Relics in the printed material makes it quite clear that modern Fallen are incapable of creating Relics with more than one power/effect, and yet I have seen item cards in play that do just that.
Finally, buying off the last point of Torment is the equivalent of achieving Golconda/Ascension/what have you in other genres. I haven’t seen anyone do it, yet, but I’d like to close the door before the horses leave the barn, here.
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Change Log
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Revisions to include the appropriate faction name under penitent, and to clean up the working for Lore of Spirit 5
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Legacy
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Partial. Allowed for PCs who had previously purchased the Penitent Merit, and previously purchased Cult 5.