[SECOND] [BYLAW REVISION] Limit on PC retests for a single challenge
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Proposal Type: Bylaw Revision
Opened: 17-Sep-2025 12:00AM EDT
Closing: 24-Sep-2025 12:00AM EDT
I, Michael Flickinger, CM for Bridgeport propose the following edition to the Character Bylaws:
Previous:
6. Glass Ceiling
a. Vampires are restricted by the following
New:
6. Glass Ceiling
i. PCs may never use more than 5 retests on a single challenge. Charity retests and the "9 Lives" merit do not count towards these limits.
a. Vampires are restricted by the following
---Legacy---
Does not apply
---Reasoning---
Primarily this is being repropped is remove DR from the prop. This is to allow DR to be its own discussion. As well as included the 9 lives merit since it specifically states you can use it as many times as you want. I also changed this, per the request of many, to make it a global change rather than one specifically targeted at Vampire PCs. So this prop would impact all PCs regardless of genres. The other reasons mentioned in the previous prop also apply to this one as well.
Sincerely,
Michael Flickinger
CM of Bridgeport
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| Chronicle/Position | Voted for | Comment |
|---|---|---|
| Brasília, DF - Brazil, Caldas Novas | For | |
| Twin Cities, MN, - USA, The Last Stand | Against | |
| Minneapolis, MN - USA, Swift to Shed Blood | Against | |
| New York City, NY - USA, Kings of New York | For | This a game balance issue that makes a fair playing ground for all players. I think the vast majority will agree, someone calling 15 retests on a challenge isn't best for game. It just slows everything down and creates a player class of haves and have nots. Most people can get to 5 pretty easily, not so much 15 or more, nor was the system ever intended to allow that by the writers. |
| Campinas, SP - Brazil, Império das Cinzas | For | |
| Mossoro, RN - Brazil, Mossoro by Night | For | |
| Sheboygan, WI - USA, Blood on the Lake | Against | |
| La Crosse, WI - USA, The Rivers Edge | Against | |
| Berkeley, CA - USA, Wasting the Dawn | For | |
| Stockton, CA - USA, Stockton by Night | Against | |
| Milwaukee, WI - USA, Nocturnal Rapture | Against | |
| Peoria, IL - USA, The Shattered Mirror | For | |
| Decatur, IL - USA, The Chaos Within | Against | This should be up to the house rules of the individual game. Also this is yet another over reach of Chronicle Sovereignty in that someone is trying to dictate how a game runs through house rules on bylaws. This comment has been revised 1 time. Click here to see revision history Version 2 dated: Sep 18 2025, 10:10pm EDT This should be up to the house rules of the individual game. Also this is yet another over reach of Chronicle Sovereignty in that someone is trying to dictate how a game runs through house rules on bylaws. |
| Tampa, FL - USA, Tampa Bay by Night | For | |
| Philadelphia, PA - USA, Honor in the Shadows | Against | Per staff |
| Bartow, FL - USA, Polk County Prophecies | For | Already do this |
| Cleveland, OH - USA, An Uncertain Destiny | Against | |
| Cedar Rapids, IA - USA, Five Nights | Against | |
| Sacramento, CA - USA, Sacramento By Night | Against | |
| Chicago, IL - USA, Dark Requiem | Against | |
| Providence, RI - USA, Hidden Flame | Against | |
| Griffin, GA - USA, Immortal Nights Theater | Against | |
| Orland Park, IL - USA, Enigmas of Rage | Against | |
| Allentown, PA - USA, Steel Valley by Night | Against | Chronicles can make this call according to what’s best for their game. Council isn’t necessary for this decision. |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Shadows of Cincinnati | Against | |
| Madison, Wi - USA, Black Crusade | Against | |
| Lancaster, OH - USA, Never Ending Nights | Against | |
| Ouro Preto, MG - Brazil, Dying of the Light | For | |
| Portland, ME - USA, Blackened Veins | Against | |
| Lexington, KY - USA, Panders Playground | Against | |
| Gary, IN - USA, Shattered Souls | Against | |
| Kenosha, WI - USA, Memento Mori | Against | This should be based on the Game not universal house rules |
| Los Angeles, CA - USA, Dark Side of the Moon | Against | |
| Green Bay, WI - USA, Shattered Dreams | Against | This should be a chronicle's choice. This comment has been revised 1 time. Click here to see revision history Version 1 dated: Sep 20 2025, 7:01pm EDT This should be a chronicle'a choice. Version 2 dated: Sep 20 2025, 7:02pm EDT This should be a chronicle's choice. |
| Columbus, OH - USA, Wyld Prophets | Against | |
| St. Augustine, FL - USA, On Haunted Ground | Against | This should be a house rule, not a bylaw. |
| Ann Arbor, MI - USA, Tower of Broken Glass | For | |
| Northern Virginia, VA - USA, Night Falls | Against | Your idea of balance is never going to be the same as everyone else’s. This is why we have Chronicle Sovereignty and house rules. Let’s keep it that way. Forcing every sheet to be a cookie cutter copy of each other is not fun. |
| Annapolis, MD - USA, Vitae Aeternus | Against | |
| Bradenton, FL - USA, Chaos & Entropy | Against | |
| Phoenix, AZ - USA, Unchained Arizona | Against | |
| Vale do Itajaí, SC - Brazil, Fear of the Dark | For | |
| Peoria, IL - USA, The Far Dawn | Against | |
| Nashville, IN - USA, Tea With Dragons | Against | No universal house rules This comment has been revised 1 time. Click here to see revision history Version 1 dated: Sep 17 2025, 3:12pm EDT Vampirecentric Version 2 dated: Sep 17 2025, 3:13pm EDT No universal house rules |
| Bridgeport, CT - USA, Bridgeport by Night: The Broken City | For | |
| Baltimore, MD - USA, Dark Harbor | Against | |
| Cincinnati, OH - USA, Rage and Fury | Against | Per player feedback. |
This should be up to the house rules of the individual game.